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Commission : Lepanto confrontation

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commission for :iconsuzumemizuno:

Spain and (Ottaman) Turkey confrontation at Lepanto.
She request a yeniçeri uniform for Turkey, which apparently look quite nice on him.
(I looked up a few refs, their uniform seems to varies but have a few things in common. However, in the end I use the uniform I see from Shoukoku no Altair to help, since it's easier to interpret than most ref pics)

I tried to painted it like image from that time (by simply throw a sepia layer in and everything is good. Everything suddenly looks good with a sepia layer)

I don't think I got their faces perfect. I mean, the expression isn't exactly saying what they suppose to feel yet, but it was a really complex feeling. So I hope I get a satisfactory result here.

Suspended them in midair, drawing a split second of an action. Because I need to improve on my actions.

My favourite part is Turkey's hand grabbing on top of Spain's hand.

and that's that. Thank you! I will send you the bugger file after the payment so you can print it out if you feel like it.

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Ok, so first of all, the work is awesome XD I really like it, and it is a pairing that I like, so congratulations for the good job :)

Now about the skin colour debate XD. I think his skin colour is 100% accurate. Most Spaniards have a lighter skin colour, like Italians or  even French, and it doesn't differ much from the skin colour of most Europeans as well. To the one saying that Spain was made with a tan because of the Moors, I don't know if he/she is right, but be it the case, it was a not very intelligent move, since Moors left almost no genetic influence in Spain at all, let alone  genetic impact, as most genetics studies have shown again and again. The average percentage of North African ancestry in Spaniards is between 3 and 5%, and it is most probably not even from the Moors, for several reasons, but the two main ones are: most Moors were actually natives converted to Islam, and your genes do not change just because you change your religion, and that all Muslims and ex-Muslims were expelled. Sure there were some exceptions, but a few dozens won't change the genetic make up nor appearance of a population of over 5 million people, it is even less likely for that to happen when most of those dozens of Muslims if not more would actually be just as native Ibberians as the Christians. Most of those traces of North African ancestry are thought to be from early migrations in the Paleolithic, Neolithic and even early the Bronce Age period. Some of it is thought to have arrived to the Iberian Peninsula via the civilization of Tartessos, in southern Spain, or even through the Carthaginians. The famous Anibal Barca, for example, was himself half Iberian, he married an Iberian woman as well, and it was not common, but it really became a neccesity, for Carthaginians noblemen to marry the native population so to assure peace and strenghen the alliances between the rulers and the invaded. Alsos, during the Roman Empire North West Africa was known as Mauretania Tingitana, but also as Hispania Transfretana was economically dependant on Baetica, in Hispania (Spain), and it was even included as part of the same provinces as the last one. The commerce was common between Southern "Spain and North Africa too, and, unlike the periods of the Muslim invasion, there were no restrictions nor forbidden marriages between both populations. The influence of North Africa in Spain and its population is very small, and it has to do with a lot of events in history other than the Moors or the Muslim invasion to Spain, actually, the last one is probably the one that left the least impact in the genetic pool of Spaniards. People just mention the Moors because it is the only thing they know about Spanish history apparently, and because they don't even know the circumstances in which it took place, nor how the reletionships between the invaders and the native population worked at all, they don't have the basic knowledge about the Muslim period in Spain either. So yes, sure they left some influence, but it was close to none. Spaniards are actually genetically closer to British, Irish, French and Belgians than they are to Italians, since the last ones have typical Mediterranean haplogroups for the most part, while 70% of Spaniards have Western European haplogroups, and are overwhlemingly natives to the Iberian Peninsula, being Mediterranean haplogroups, most of them coming from ancient Rome, but not solely, the second most common genes in Spain, in around 20% of the population. They are, together with the French and Portuguese, what scientists call Atlanto-Mediterranean. Now, the skin is just fine, cause it is true that most Spaniards show a much lighter skin tone, but you should go to the Spanish beaches during summer. People there get tanned. Not all, of course, and not to the same extent, but most do. Swedish, English, German tourists are all tanned here as well, some even more than the locals. So yes, most Spaniards can, and do have a darker skin tone during summer, but this really goes to most Europeans. In this priod I would portray Spain as either nicely tanned, just like in the image, because of the work outdoors, the training and all that, or milky pale, since the nobility spent their days in their castles and had a declared war against the sun. So either pale, almost vampire-like pale, or nicely tanned are fine with me, and both are accuarate, so I really fail to see the wrong skin colour in the image, it is actually pretty plausible.

Also, sorry, but all Spaniards are white, the ones who are not whites are in the 98% of the cases of recent foreign origin, and even if there was a small percentage of the population that would not clasify as white, if the overwhelming majority of Spaniards do, why on earth would you make the representation of the country non-white? It's nuts.

I know I went off on a tangent, and this was way too long and I also know that this is an old work, I'm sorry, but  wanted to explain what I know. Keep up the good work, and thank you for drawing this :)